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Part Two: Recurring Characters & Episode Guide.

From jjpor: It's the morning after the revolution before. The Evil Empire has fallen; the Plucky Rebels won against impossible odds, as Plucky Rebels tend to do. Now they've just got to deal with the messy aftermath and, you know, actually govern the place. Preferably without becoming like the regime they've just defeated.


HEROES OF THE REVOLUTION

"The state has failed us, over and over, so we decide ourselves who to protect and who to betray, who to save and who to kill. This was no more, no less than that. Another act of conscience, if you like. Let's call it the final act of revolution - and remember we're all complicit in the crime."


A critically-acclaimed but long-forgotten 13 episode drama series from 1973/4 that starred Gemma Jones, Alfred Burke, Julian Glover and Diane Keen.

Set in the near-future in an alternate (but not too different) reality, where a tyrannical regime has been in power in Britain for nearly three decades, a group of freedom fighters led by a man known as "Arran", finally defeat the dictator Hallam - and then a new battle begins, one where the lines are even less clear than before. It explores the ethics of power as a drama plays out between the victorious rebel leaders, the remnant of the old guard, and those who want to find more peaceful solutions for the future.



Part One: Main Cast & Premise

Anna | Catherine Miller - Gemma Jones
Charles Terrell - Alfred Burke
Arran | Colonel Michael Seaton - Julian Glover
Liesa | Louise Seaton - Diane Keen
Liz Cardew - Sheila Allen
Daniel Robbins - Paul Eddington
Edward Woodfield - Morris Perry

Incidental music & theme composed by Wilfred Josephs


OTHER REGULARS / RECURRING CHARACTERS
Captain Andrew Williams (David Gwillim)
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Another former rebel, now part of the official military under Arran. He's assigned to provide security for Charles Terrell - and to keep an eye on him, if he acts against Arran's interests. He soon finds his loyalties divided.


Dr. Anil Basu (Madhav Sharma)
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Colleague of Dr. Cardew's on the Emergency Medical Committee, who winds up getting more involved with the new government than he expected.


James (Jamie) Bradley (Stewart Bevan)
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Another former rebel (part of the intelligence network, though some people find that hard to believe), now Terrell's secretary. How seriously he's taking this and how much he reports to Arran are two more things Terrell's not sure of. Or Arran, to be honest.


Ella Gabell (Mona Hammond)
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Another former rebel and a chemist, now also on the Advisory Committee, and expected to turn her skills to things more constructive than destructive this time. She also works closely with Liesa on various projects.


Clive Procter (Simon Lack)
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Chairman of the Advisory Committee (now resurrected after being disbanded by Hallam), Procter, a physicist (helping with the power crisis), merely hopes that now they can get things done. He's no stranger to politics himself, either.


Jill Edgington (Elisabeth Sladen)
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Secretary to Woodfield, and as a believer in the previous regime, she thinks Woodfield's too self-interested and is more supportive of John Neville, his deputy.

(And I think, timing-wise, this just managed to squeak in its filming before Doctor Who. *nods*)


John Neville (David Langton)
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Woodfield's deputy, more into the ideology of the previous regime (utilitarianism) than Woodfield.




EPISODE GUIDE

1. Blood Red Dawn
Anna: "You and I, we know how to fight too well. What we need now are people who know how to fight with words, not weapons."
Arran: "Something tells me you have someone in mind."


A political leader is holding an apparently calm cabinet meeting - but this is the dictator Thomas Hallam (Laurence Hardy), and it's to be the last meeting he ever attends. Minutes later, the rebel leader known as "Arran" has arrived, most of Hallam's guards defecting - the regime's measures have grown ever more extreme, and Hallam's health and mental state have been worrying even his closest followers. Now it's time for a new regime to take the place of the old one and take its chances in an ever more uncertain climate.

Meanwhile Arran's second in command - "Anna" - goes hunting for a potential new prime minister among the political prisoners they've just collected. On the other side, there's a power struggle of sorts going on between the more moderate Edward Woodfield and the extremist John Neville.

Charles: "You must have another name. I know how it worked in the rebellion, so -"
Anna: "The person who went by that name died a long time ago. Suppose you'd have to call it suicide. Anna will do."

Robbins: "I never meant to end up here."
Anna: "Don't look too down about it. You're alive, aren't you, and being useful?"
Robbins: "It's not much of a comfort. If I tell you something, you won't have me shot, will you?"
Anna: "I'll try to restrain myself."
Robbins: "I don't approve of your Colonel. I don't like what Hallam did more than anybody else, but I don't see blowing things up as a solution."
Anna: "It was never supposed to be a solution. Means to an end."
Robbins: "It wasn't your lot, but not that long ago, there was a terrible thing happened at Salisbury. It all adds up to the same thing, as far as I'm concerned."
Anna: "Not quite."
Robbins: "Oh?"
Anna: "Well, I haven't shot you, and I'm not going to report you. And I'm still trying to offer you a position in the emergency government."
Robbins: "I suppose being useful could have a novelty appeal."
Anna: "I thought you were a utilitarian!"

Woodfield: "You may not agree with me, but you need me. At this precise moment, Colonel Seaton is a very popular man. How do you plan to deal with that? Shoot him, I suppose."

Charles Terrell: "I'm hardly going to be a popular choice. Most of your people would call me a collaborator. Arran is not going to make me the leader of his party. You know that!"
Anna: "Most of us, what we are - we're fighters. You're still a politician."
Charles: "You know, you almost managed to make that sound like a compliment."
Anna: "I have every faith in you."
Charles: "And I still haven't agreed, or perhaps you hadn't noticed?"

Jill: "Sir. You can't trust [Woodfield]."
Neville: "I can make use of him."



2. Out With the Old
Edward Woodfield: "The previous regime was extreme - distastefully so - but there were reasons for some of its decisions, as I think you are coming to understand. Your Colonel certainly is. What are you going to do? Control information, minimise panic, maintain military rule - that, my dear fellow, is how it begins. But isn't it better than anarchy?"
Charles: "Let's give anarchy a try and find out, shall we? Or at least, comparative anarchy."


Hallam's dead, but the majority of the previous government isn't. There's a vocal section of the party who want them summarily executed and are threatening to take matters into their own hands if they're not - led by John Harrison (Robin Ellis). This is exactly what Anna doesn't want to see; it's also something Charles Terrell has got every reason to want to oppose - and how Anna persuades both Colonel Seaton/Arran and Charles to accept his new role. Edward Woodfield, newly appointed head of what was Hallam's party, is out to make the most of any such killings - and disappointed by Charles's intervention. (As he says, "I thought you were going to create a power vacuum, especially for me!")

Also Dr Elizabeth Cardew of the Emergency Medical Committee arrives and makes demands of the Colonel, who then makes demands of her in return. Daniel Robbins is charged with re-establishing the Advisory Committee. And, finally, now that Charles has agreed to join the emergency government, Anna interviews him. ("It's not going to be all that exciting," he says. "Probably not that edifying, either...") And the Colonel assigns Captain Williams to keep an eye on Charles - in more senses than one.

Charles (to Anna): "You know, I still don't understand why you want me to do something you're perfectly capable of doing yourself. You're the obvious choice for this position. Not me, you!"

Harrison: "You'd rather listen to a traitor than to the people who got out there and did something!"

Dr Cardew: "This isn't irrelevant. Fail to meet people's basic needs, and they'll die. I'd say that makes it your first priority, Colonel."

Arran: "What the hell is it now?"
Captain Williams: "Sir. It's Major Harrison. He's going to have the prisoners shot. He sent me to deal with Mr Robbins, and he's gone after Mr Terrell."
Arran: "Then you and Anna get after him now, and I'll deal with the rest!"

Charles: "Shoot him, and the Colonel'll have you shot!"
Woodfield: "I'm touched, but it's your office... I doubt it's me he's after."

Williams (examining Harrison): "I'm afraid he's dead."
Charles (to Anna): "I suppose you couldn't have been - Anna? [Pause] Come on, this can't be the first time."
Anna: "No, but I thought I'd already seen the last time."

Robbins: "I'm trying to find our lost experts. At this rate, I might as well hold a seance and have done with it."

Charles: "I just don't see the point of discussing things that happened thirty years ago!"

Charles: "I suppose you've never known anything else, have you? This life of mistrust. I can remember what it was like before. There was enough trouble, of course, but it wasn't like this."



3. Divide and Conquer
Arran: "Observe - assess the situation. Note your enemy's weaknesses. Play on them - direct your attack at the heart."

Woodfield approaches Dr Cardew, and also the Advisory Committee - his party, he says, will be much more practical about the important issues of survival than the new emergency government who don't seem able to act at all. In return, Terrell enlists Robbins's help in finding ways to widen the cracks between Woodfield and his deputy, John Neville.

Dr Cardew's colleague, Dr Basu, has been dealing with former prisoners of the notorious "Detention Centre". Liesa has been following up some of his work there & among other things, finds that Charles was based there, something he omitted from his interview with Anna - and has Anna worrying that she's made a mistake.

Woodfield: "There's no future with a violent figurehead like Colonel Seaton. Modified continuity is the way to make progress."
Liz Cardew: "I might agree, but when your party thinks you are dangerously moderate, I think progress is unlikely. Or are you unaware of your deputy's policies? In which case, you're worryingly out of touch with your own people."

Dr Basu: "They're still terrorists."
Liz Cardew: "And the previous, supposedly legitimate government wanted to use our diagnoses as death warrants. If we can start to build a society that's even a little more civilised, I don't think I care any more."

Dr Basu: "You might find some of this upsetting."
Liesa: "Do you think I haven't had to fight, and survive, same as the rest of us?"
Dr Basu: "Even so."
Liesa: "I shall cope."

Procter: "My position is neutral."
Woodfield: "Naive, my dear fellow, naive."
Procter: "Oh, you want me to choose sides? Well, in that case, do you remember the last occasion we met?"
Woodfield: "I'm not sure I've had the pleasure, though if you say so -"
Procter: "And there you see, we have it. I'm only a simple physicist, Mr Woodfield. No doubt I can't quite follow your complicated politics, of course, but I do dislike being locked up and threatened."

Woodfield: "And what did [Hallam] do?"
Procter: "He cried. It was terrifying."

Liesa: "I thought Anna was going to speak to you. The records say you were based there for a short time, and we need to know -"
Charles: "Is that how they put it? I've been there, several times. Too many. I was asked to do what I did, remember."
Liesa: "Yes, I know that. But Anna was concerned. That's why I thought -"
Charles: "Yes, well, if I'm supposed to remember all the times I've been locked up by one side or the other -! And that one I've tried to shut out of my mind. Hallam was as bad as they all say by the end - unstable, arbitrary. I don't know what made him have me sent there. I don't know what made him suddenly change his mind, either. I was lucky."

Dr Basu: "And how did you decide? Who to save, I mean?"
Charles: "I didn't. Orders. Importance to the Rebellion. Timing. Can't release too many people in one month, or people notice."
Dr Basu: "That's -"
Charles: "Yes."



4. Shadows of Yesterday
Woodfield: "I do think there are some things the people ought to be told."

Everybody's concerned about power - electricity and gas, that is, and the issue of dwindling resources that brought about all the initial emergency measures and Hallam's rise to power in the first place. Charles Terrell wants the Advisory Committee (especially Ella Gabell) to make it their first priority, but rumours that Hallam had a solution to the issue are spreading further, giving rise to more unrest in the country.

Dr Basu is continuing his work at the former Detention Centre and comes across rumours of his own, better-founded ones, of another such centre in the north. On going to inform Liesa, he finds Arran, who immediately sets off with him to that location, even as Charles gets his information from Woodfield, and the two things prove to be one and the same - based on Hallam's deluded belief in a fantasy solution to the problem.

Meanwhile, Liesa wants Anna to help her find one of the few surviving members of her family, which ends in heartbreak. Anna, on the other hand, won't go home at all, but she writes a letter she then burns: not to her mother, Elizabeth Miller (nee White), but to Charles Terrell - her father.

Dr Basu (on Arran): "He gets things done, after all."

Anna: "Do you really want to? I always think - well, to do what we do - what we did - you shut the door on your old life, lock it up. Then you can do what you have to."
Liesa: "Maybe you did. I never had to. There was never any different life for me, not like that."

Arran: "How did it go? As bad as you thought, or worse?"
Liesa: "As bad as I thought, I suppose. I think you had better results?"
Arran: "I liberated about a hundred prisoners and managed to answer Terrell's damn questions about non-existent power projects at the same time. Not bad, no."
Liesa: "Then tell me about it. Tell me something terrible ended."

Anna (writing): "The truth is, there's something I lied about. Only because it would be inconvenient, because everybody else would think it mattered, and it doesn't. It doesn't at all."



5. The Tyrant's Widow
Anna: "Can you be part of something like that and be allowed to live?"
Charles: "We have to hope so, for all our sakes. Isn't that the point?"


The rebels have Sylvia Hallam (Helen Shingler) in custody, and the issue can no longer be ignored: let Hallam's widow go, despite public opinion, or punish her for her husband's crimes. As far as anyone can discover, there's no evidence against her - more to suggest that Hallam treated her as badly as anyone else. However, releasing her will both anger the hardliners in Arran's party and, given the mood of the country, leave her in danger, and needing costly police protection. Exile is an option, but her health is not good and leaving her to face the conditions in much of mainland Europe would be a sentence of death in itself. Travelling elsewhere would be a better option, if it could be arranged.

Sylvia's nephew, Colin Walker (Ian Marter) asks Charles and Anna to help. Charles is trying, but Anna's now got reservations about Sylvia's innocence. Woodfield's protesting about the government's cruelty, Neville's of the opinion she's a traitor anyway, Arran's losing patience, and there are a group of former rebels determined to take action...


6. Business As Usual
Robbins: "Self-sufficiency is one of those things people always like the sound of, and politicians like to promise, but it's not very practical for nations, not in general."
Anna: "Presumably Mr. Hallam never listened to you, then?"
Robbins: "No, but then so few people do."


Money makes the world go round, and it certainly helps with running a country, too. Continuing international trading, and opening up new trading avenues is vital, difficult as travel can be these days. Robbins is setting up important negotiations, and Anna and Charles are helping, dealing with bankers and businessmen from home and abroad. Arran is making preparations for the elections, as is Woodfield, who's keen to suggest any international conferences like this are tantamount to treason.

Ella Gabell picks up on a threat to Arran from one of their visitors, and Captain Williams is attacked in Charles's office (though he's saved by Charles's unexpected return with Jamie for some mislaid notes). And in Arran's absence, Charles makes a move forward in the negotiations. It's not what the Colonel had in mind.

Robbins: "Of course, we still haven't got the Governor the Bank of England -"
Charles: "That seems a bit of an oversight."
Robbins: "We haven't made a reappointment yet, and Hallam had the last one shot."

Charles: "These are not the correct notes, it's not the right file - can you please make an effort at some point?"
Jamie: "I have no idea how that happened, sir."
Charles: "Miss Edgington drop by to make an appointment again?"
Jamie: "Sir, I -"
Charles: "Ought to stop flirting with someone who'd happily have you shot?"
Jamie: "Only once I got to sixty, and who wants to live that long?"
Charles: "I was hoping to. Beyond, even. But don't worry - since they're all for usefulness, I doubt you'd make it to forty."




7. Power Loss
Procter: "It's a fantasy. We've been through this before. It's based on completely unsound principles, and is a waste of time, money, resources. In the wrong hands, it could even be dangerous."
Arran: "And these are unquestionably the wrong hands."


Belief in Hallam's solution persists and a new group appears, who are prepared to take any means to get the useless and expensive project back into action. Arran considers whether this should mean postponing the upcoming election. Anna won't hear of it.

Jamie's got an issue with Charles for passing on incorrect information to the Resistance two years ago, which resulted in unnecessary deaths.

Jamie: "Accidents happen, is that it? Sir."
Charles: "Oh, yes. Plenty of them. But no, not that. That was deliberate. We thought we had a break in our chain of communications. And it had to be something important enough that if that were so, someone would act. What was an accident - if you can call it that - was that the second message was never received. Hallam's men shot the messenger. As you say, accidents happen."
Jamie: "And you're terribly sorry about it."
Charles: "No, not for that."

Charles (to Anna): "You always think what I did was better. It wasn't. Just different, that's all."
Anna: "And I believe the difference is important."



8. The Old and the Weak
Woodfield: "It's no good promising a happy ending you can't deliver. You have to be realistic. You can't save everyone."
Charles: "Yes, but we don't have to start throwing people overboard before the ship has started sinking."


The previous government's policies of putting down less useful members of society can't be continued even though Anna and Arran are trying to deal with a radical group who are carrying out attacks based on those policies, but that still leaves issues of food and medical supplies on top of the power supply problem.

The advisory committee are trying to find both short-term and long-term solutions. International help might be available, on terms, and will also require Britain to reinstate the independent media, also on proviso that the upcoming election does happen. Woodfield thinks that sort of thing is the thin end of the wedge; Charles doesn't much care, he's just hoping he can get information about the radical group for Arran from him.

Arran: "It's not them that's the problem - oh, I'm sure it's one of their people stirring up panic and hysteria. This is what people do, and then you wonder what the bloody point was. Rationing's not improved, the power shortages aren't miraculously solved, so let's all go back to attacking any members of society who don't contribute properly!"
Charles: "It's been a long time under Hallam. There are too many people who don't know any other way. It'll take years to change that."

Charles (to Woodfield): "You don't have any belief in utilitarianism, do you? Not really. So, if you know about this group, then tell us. Virtuously hand them over and look like a hero. Much better all round."

Woodfield: "You knew about this?"
Neville: "We're wasting time - wasting everything. Every day we wait for them to fall apart before it's too late. No, I didn't, but if someone wants to act, I've got no difficulty with that."
Woodfield: "Well, I have. If you ask me, the election is already lost."
Neville: "If the Colonel can't seem to stop them, I doubt it'll do much for people's confidence in him."

Arran: "You gave the advantage to the opposition. You don't do that."
Charles: "To stop this."
Arran: "And you're so sure we couldn't have done that ourselves?"



9. Headlines
Arran: "You give somebody back their house, then, instead of being grateful and trying to get on and live in it, they tear it down and throw the bricks at you!"

The emergency government take measures to re-establish independent press and broadcasting in the run up to the first proper elections in twenty years. Which also means, of course, more criticism, rumours, scandal and means of spreading panic.

And there's one particular rumour that seems to be disturbing Arran and Anna in particular: something to do with an incident at Salisbury. Nobody else knows why.

Meanwhile, some small other business - there's a proper election about to be held for the first time in about thirty years...

Arran: "How the hell did they know?"
Anna: "They didn't. Random stabs in the dark. One of them was a little close for comfort. That's all."
Arran: "You're very certain of that, aren't you?"



10. Broken Instrument
Woodfield: "It was a promising project - until you people inconveniently blew up everyone involved."

Following the election, Charles appoints a survivor from Salisbury (the lone surviving scientist from a power-related project) to one of the sub-committees on power. Now Arran's worried and it's causing him to put two and two together in more equations than one, and not all the answers are true. Anna's not so much - until the man (David Collings) is found dead and it becomes possible that Woodfield might have learned something from him.

Liesa consults Dr Cardew about the Colonel. Ella and Clive Procter are trying to gather useful information from the fragments left from the project in question, but they don't know whether it can be done, or even if the project is worth following up.

Dr Cardew: "The man wasn't well enough to be here, in my opinion. You shouldn't have pushed him to do it."

Liesa: "I'd never betray you. Got nowhere else to go, have I?"

Ella: "How are you at jigsaw puzzles?"
Procter: "Excellent, but then I usually had all the pieces and the cover illustration to go by."
Ella: "More than I ever had."



11. Traitor's Gate
Anna: "A public execution and trial would undo everything. But there has to be justice, or we should never have even tried to fight Hallam."
Arran: "And you're the one to hand it out? Setting yourself above the rest of us, with the scales in your hand?"


Everybody else is still adjusting to the changes brought about by the emergency government being now an offical, elected government, but Anna and Arran have other matters on their mind. They both want to put Salisbury forever behind them, but they've got very different ideas about how.

Now that things are on official lines, Charles is dealing with various requests and suggestions from all kind of people, including Dr Cardew and Robbins. It could all be irrelevant soon: Arran's worked out the relationship between Charles and Anna and it's the last straw. Williams is facing a dilemma between an order and his conscience. And Anna sends Charles her file, and then sets off to confront Arran.

Arran: "It does show, doesn't it, how few people you can trust."

Charles: "That's it, is it? You wanted someone you had a hold on. But why? You could have taken this position yourself."

Charles: "I'll have to resign. If the Colonel wants to wait till the dust of the election's died down, I will, but you can't think that this won't look bad if it gets out."
Anna: "There's no reason it should. Don't do anything till I've spoken to Arran. Nobody else could have connected the dots, nobody else will. It doesn't matter."
Charles: "I'm sounding reasonable because there's always somebody about somewhere, watching, listening, or trying to, so maybe it isn't clear: I don't care what the Colonel thinks - I'm furious, and I will be resigning!"

Arran (to Anna): "If it were me, I'd disown you. And were you planning on telling your mother you were alive any time soon?"

Arran: "My God, all this time, you've been planning our executions."

Arran: "And you won't run away."
Anna: "I won't run. I'll be right here with you."



12. Heroes Never Die
Liesa: "You said we'd made a nice story out of him. That's it, isn't it? Protect the dream, the story. Remove the two people she blames the most."

Arran's dying; Anna's the one responsible. Charles is trying to think of the future before anything else, but he needs Arran's help if that's possible. Liesa agrees with him. Dr Basu really doesn't.

Woodfield thinks he's seen his chance at last, but he's got trouble in his own party to deal with first, as John Neville's trying for a takeover of his own. And it's not as if there aren't other groups still active out there with more violent agendas.

Charles: "Everyone always told me you had a head for strategy, never panicked under fire - lost that, now, have you? Want to hand the country over to the likes of Woodfield, sink back into the oppression before we've taken even the first few steps out of it? There's still something you can do!"

Charles: "Oh, I don't think it had anything to do with me."
Liesa: "But Anna thought -"
Charles: "Maybe she did, maybe she didn't. And that's what we're saying, I know. It makes an understandable reason, but I don't think it's the truth."

Charles: "We've all got too much of a life and death mentality. Anyone else want to commit murder, become a martyr, or anything else of that nature, how about we have a talk first? There might be other options."



13. Last Act of the Revolution
Charles: "The state has failed us, over and over, so we decide ourselves who to protect and who to betray, who to save and who to kill. This was no more, no less than that. Another act of conscience, if you like. Let's call it the final act of revolution - and remember that we're all complicit in the crime."

Arran's dead, but the country hasn't descended into chaos - yet. Anna's facing a trial, and Charles is trying to work out a way to save her. It would be hard enough, considering the charge, but she doesn't want to be saved, and he's not permitted to intervene. That leaves only one option: get Edward Woodfield to help. It might not be as crazy as it seems - Woodfield's currently in need of support, and Anna (and Williams) saved his life, too.

Liesa's got a plan, too, but is it better to feed people hope, or stick to the truth?

The series ends with Anna going into exile, and Woodfield bringing news to Charles of a new rebel group's attack in the north...


Anna: "I told you we needed someone who could fight with words."

Liesa: "I seem to be the only one left again."

Charles: "It all amounts to the same thing, over and over. I did all of it, too - the good and the bad, the times I kept my head down because it was easier, safer, under any excuse you care to name. And maybe I was right, maybe it saved me, maybe it saved other people. There ought to be something better, but we fought in our own ways, and now it's time to try and change that, if we can."
Anna: "I shot him. We worked together all that time. Fought together. Waited in the dark. Told terrible jokes. And I shot him."

Anna: "If I live long enough, I'll try and explain one day."
Charles: "Stay alive, yes. Do that."
Anna: "But not at any cost?"
Charles: "If anyone can last out there, it's you. I have every faith in you."



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Obviously, being what it is, there's no fandom for it as such. It did get nominated one year for Yuletide (following the DVD release by Network), though nobody wrote the request for Anna in exile post-series in a ruined Europe, sadly. Maybe one day.


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Comments

( 31 comments — Leave a comment )
liadtbunny
Feb. 23rd, 2014 03:27 pm (UTC)
\o/ Have a rest & a cake! It was a shame the series never got a second one, espc when there was an umade ep with the dead survivor of Salisbury's twin brother turning up. I blame Survivors for getting all the budget, like when Blake's 7 started and nobody wanted Who anymore.

Everybody's concerned about power - electricity and gas 70's alert!

Has David Gwillim been in a historical thingy? He looks familiar. It'll be embarrassing if it's 'The Legend of Robin Hood'.

Poor David Collings he's such a fragile thing(!). Don't go to Sailbury! Of course, his demise was discussed in future episodes too?

It looks bad for the Tyrant's widow, if the rebels don't get her, it'll go all Lord Haw Haw.
lost_spook
Feb. 23rd, 2014 05:07 pm (UTC)
It was a shame the series never got a second one, espc when there was an umade ep with the dead survivor of Salisbury's twin brother turning up.

No, that's just an internet rumour. It was never intended to be anything other than a one-off serial.

David Collings got distressed and committed suicide again, poor thing. Julian Glover may have terrified him into it, but nobody really knows. (I spent all this time working out all these things and then cut them out of summaries and quotes before it got epic. It's been funny, doing this one.)

Hmm, as to The Tyrant's Widow, they let her go and she got killed. It wasn't the cheeriest of shows; you were probably lucky you missed that episode.

David Gwillim was Henry V/Hal in the BBC Shakespeare's Henry IVs and Henry V. I think he was in Barchester Towers as well. He was in Enemy at the Door (where Alfred Burke had him executed) and then, much to my surprise, popped up in Public Eye and I found out why Alfred Burke had to execute him. ;-D Anyway, yes, he's been in some historical things, but I don't know what else without going to look.
liadtbunny
Feb. 24th, 2014 03:04 pm (UTC)
David Collings got distressed and committed suicide again Wasn't that his proposed 'Up Pompeii' episode?:P

I get bored when I know a characters going to die in the first five mins, so it was perhaps as well I had a migraine that week.

I'm glad Gwillim didn't take revenge against Alfred Burke for executing him;) I don't think he's in Robin Hood, but I was thinking of cakefic when I was watching it, to get over more malfunctioning boiler fun.
lost_spook
Feb. 24th, 2014 04:59 pm (UTC)
I'm glad Gwillim didn't take revenge against Alfred Burke for executing him;) I don't think he's in Robin Hood, but I was thinking of cakefic when I was watching it, to get over more malfunctioning boiler fun.

Bit hard to take revenge once you're dead. Although, I suppose I haven't checked they never were in anything again together...

Thinking of cake fic is always a sensible response! Really! *cough*

:-D
persiflage_1
Feb. 23rd, 2014 03:59 pm (UTC)
Excellent work! *hugs*
lost_spook
Feb. 23rd, 2014 05:07 pm (UTC)
Thanks! :-D
lolmac
Feb. 23rd, 2014 07:06 pm (UTC)
Did you HAVE to kill David Collings? *pout* I want fix-it fic now.
lost_spook
Feb. 23rd, 2014 08:28 pm (UTC)
It was the law in 1973. You could only not kill him if he was evil. Sometimes he was both.

I suppose you could have fix-it fic where he faked his suicide because he was scared of Julian Glover shouting at him! There you go...

(I got so into this that killing off David Collings failed to engage my brain for more than about five minutes... 0_o)
john_amend_all
Feb. 23rd, 2014 10:34 pm (UTC)
The show really did eat your brain, didn't it? I hope it gives it back nicely.

Is the Arran / Hallam assonance intended to suggest that the two mightn't be as dissimilar as they'd like to think, when push came to shove?
lost_spook
Feb. 24th, 2014 08:26 am (UTC)
:-)

And I didn't think about that aspect - also, while I've tended to write "Arran" in the quotes, that's for ease. He reverts to Colonel Seaton once he's in power, really.

I could have pretended that was a yes, but it's probably just my brain tending to certain sorts of names or something.
llywela13
Feb. 24th, 2014 08:46 pm (UTC)
Oh, you seem to have had so much fun with this - fantastic job!
lost_spook
Feb. 24th, 2014 09:27 pm (UTC)
Thank you! It really was fun to do - I didn't know what to do with myself yesterday evening when there was no more point in writing random dialogue. :lol:

And, btw, I did put Ian Marter in there for you (episode 6, I think - The Tyrant's Widow). I don't think he even got killed. ;-D
llywela13
Feb. 24th, 2014 10:43 pm (UTC)
Episode 5. D'aww, thank you. Yay for even a cameo. Stunt make-believe casting can be tremendously fun!

And yes, I know, it does feel really weird when you finish a project - like emerging blinking from a tunnel into daylight wondering what the heck is this thing called 'free time'...
lost_spook
Feb. 25th, 2014 05:48 pm (UTC)
Oh, he's a pretty major guest star for the ep, I assure you! :-D

llywela13
Feb. 25th, 2014 07:35 pm (UTC)
Well, I'm very happy to hear it, because obviously that's an important career boost. :D

I'm fascinated by the discipline this project must have taken, plotting out the shape of an entire season. Plotting is always my major downfall - I can stick characters in a scene and let them talk till the cows come home, but structuring an actual plot in which they can hold those conversations is so much harder. I mostly just make it up as I go along, which is why there is never any real structure or discipline to my plots. So I'm tremendously impressed by this project!
lost_spook
Feb. 26th, 2014 06:00 pm (UTC)
I do my best! :-)

I'm fascinated by the discipline this project must have taken, plotting out the shape of an entire season.

This - including the ones from 2010 - is the fourth fake TV show I have made up, and they're all slightly different to do. And, of course, it's not as impressive as it looks in that I don't need to do the writing and the research in the in between bits, which is the difficult part! With this one, I had the setting and quickly the characters - and then, because I wanted it to be in the same mold as Enemy at the Door and Public Eye, the characters are the plot in many ways.

Last time I had some that did involve more working out (Enigma House had a central mystery and Cloak and Dagger was a historical, so I actually started with a list of historical events and worked from there with my characters).

Everybody does them differently, though, but they are surprisingly fun to do. Would you like a prompt for you? See how you do one? (Episode guides like this are not required! See isurrendered for all the different ways people do it).

But thank you. It is a skeleton, though. The putting flesh on it would take work. (Although, as a TV show, I suppose I could just hire, say, you (heh) for an episode and tell you you've got the one about energy issues and fuel shortages and you'd have to do the research on that. :lol:)
jjpor
Feb. 26th, 2014 10:17 pm (UTC)
Excellent stuff! You must have put a lot of time and effort into that; I'm still struggling with just six episode synopses for the first of my prompts. Regarding our earlier discussion about who plays Hallam, I had to look up Laurence Hardy, but once I saw a couple of pictures of him, well, I'm still not sure whether I've seen him in anything, but he *looks* familiar, and just the sort of person you'd expect to see popping up in something like this. Again, I think one of the really strong things about this series you've thought up is its plausibility in ways like that.

I also like the way in the descriptions above that you leave out most of the actual details of plot, setting etc - it leaves it all to the imagination. I want to know now exactly what was going on in that northern detention centre, or what happened to mainland Europe (not to the whole world, perhaps, if there are still foreign governments willing to offer aid to Britain with political strings attached) and what its connection was with Hallam's rise to power. Or indeed just exactly what goes on between Arran, Anna and Charles in those last three episodes. But on the other hand, I like the mystery and speculation very much as well (although I wouldn't be complaining if you ever shared any of that stuff, perhaps in story form, because I think you probably know most of those particulars even if you haven't put them in above).

Poor David Collings. Always ends up like that for him. :(

And didn't Barry Letts say in his book that it was Lis Sladen's small but brilliantly played role in Heroes of the Revolution that decided him on her when casting Sarah Jane Smith? Sure I read that somewhere... ;)
lost_spook
Feb. 27th, 2014 08:54 pm (UTC)
Thank you!!

I did actually have a pic of both Laurence Hardy and Helen Shingler (Mrs Hallam) but they looked odd in the post in the middle of the episode guide. I got desperate trying to find actors born somewhere between about 1895-1910, and then settled on him. Like most other people here, I found him in a Public Eye episode and thought he'd do nicely (younger than I wanted, but would be fine playing a few years older). But sorry about that - I should have put the pics at the end or something and saved you your Googling.

I also like the way in the descriptions above that you leave out most of the actual details of plot, setting etc - it leaves it all to the imagination.

:lol: You mean all the bits where I might have had to have done proper research and work and things? Oh, I avoided those, yes, I did!

I am not sure what has happened to Europe exactly (but I reason a British show is never going to have a problem fantasising about Europe being ruined while it stands alone blah blah blah). Anyway, I imagine that this is an AU and it's probably the 1990s (but it looks exactly like the 70s, only maybe even drabber), and something happened around the end of WWII and the beginning of the Cold War - that either WWII didn't end as soon, or there was even worse destruction, plus some dodgy Cold War shenanigans. The situation is probably not as bad as the British believe, because after all they just spent nearly 30 years under the rule of a Totalitarian gov't who don't necessarily want people to have the correct information (or who are paranoid and disbelieving themselves). But it must be pretty bad and the same events have made travelling more difficult/costly, obviously especially across Europe. But the rest of the world is still functioning mostly. I suspect some places boycotted Britain because of the actions of the gov't. (That's my basic idea, but I would need to find out more about what might create that situation and politics and economics... and I'm not doing that to write episode summaries while I have little brain).

The same events helped lead to Hallam's rise to power - related to it, there weren't nuclear power stations, plus less import/export of necessary materials, and therefore, a power crisis began in the late 50s, leading to emergency measures that started becoming permanent - and the dictatorship was based around an extreme form of utilitarianism (according to them, solely to survive).

(I know that. It was just there, I don't know exactly how, if that's really all that plausible, but I think for the kind of series it is, yes, enough so?)

I don't think story form is all that likely... but it was fun to do and I hope the basic character arc comes across. I wrote pages and pages of dialogue (explaining stuff to myself really), which was fun - easier than proper writing!! - and then selected bits that were interesting or implied stuff about the plot/characterisation, but I don't know how well that worked.

And didn't Barry Letts say in his book that it was Lis Sladen's small but brilliantly played role in Heroes of the Revolution that decided him on her when casting Sarah Jane Smith? Sure I read that somewhere...

I'm sure you're right. I think I remember that from somewhere, too - maybe a DVD commentary or something.

Also also... I await yours with much interest!!
jjpor
Mar. 1st, 2014 09:25 pm (UTC)
A dystopian setting focusing on energy shortages and natural resources, though, is again very plausible for the time period when this series is supposed to have been made. I mean, you see the preoccupation with such things as well as the beginnings of environmental consciousness in things like Pertwee-era Doctor Who and the other SF series made around the same time. Also the obsession with government-funded Big Science projects to try and solve these crises in the making. This was the time of the "oil shock" following the Yom Kippur War (cue my mum, again, and her tales of the petrol ration coupons they issued to car owners at the time, although it never got so bad that they needed to be used), and the (other) Miners' Strike leading to rolling electricity blackouts and so on. Hallam and his crew are no doubt some sort of fictional counterpart for the very sinister elements in contemporary British political life who were calling for "something" drastic to be done about the whole thing (or would have been if this had actually been made in the early 70s, anyway).

Militant utilitarianism, though, is a good one - it takes it out of the whole left/right thing and allows a more general consideration of extremist political movements and the way they work without worrying about what colour rosettes they may or may not be wearing.

I think this is something I associate with your writing generally, in things like the UNIT series - the characterisations and the words you put into the characters' mouths are always very believable and very consistent, and I think it shines through in this and in the other imaginary series you created when this meme was going around the first time.

Also also... I await yours with much interest!!

Well, my first prompt, which is coincidentally also the one you gave me, is about two thirds done. I stupidly decided I wanted all of the casting, episode guide etc all complete before I posted anything, but that may not have been the best idea with hindsight... ;)
lost_spook
Mar. 2nd, 2014 01:31 pm (UTC)
Militant utilitarianism, though, is a good one - it takes it out of the whole left/right thing and allows a more general consideration of extremist political movements

Yes. I wish I could say I thought it carefully through, but as I said, there were some things I "knew" immediately - but, yes, that was my reasoning, once I stopped assessing the few instant facts that popped into my head. It feels a plausible response to the situation and it isn't automatically associated with any particular other ideology. And, like all extremes, would be very nasty taken to its logical conclusion.

And, aww, thank you for such a nice compliment!

I stupidly decided I wanted all of the casting, episode guide etc all complete before I posted anything, but that may not have been the best idea with hindsight...

Well, I regretted posting mine in two parts, so I don't think your decision is stupid, but I'm definitely eager to see it. (I must get on my other two - the second (really the first) I'm nearly cast, so it's not too far off). :-)
swordznsorcery
Feb. 27th, 2014 09:00 am (UTC)
How did I manage to not see this before?! Amazing job. Well done!

Damned shame there was never a season two. I want to know what happened next. Anna's exile could have made for a good story; and how did Charles manage without her there to watch his back? Were the new rebels good guys or bad guys? So much potential. Do I glare at the BBC or ITV? Have to glare at you for killing off Julian Glover though. ;)

I like Charles. I think I'd have enjoyed watching his story. I shall look out for the novelisation (with dodgy photographic cover) on eBay! And maybe a prequel, written by the show's creator?
lost_spook
Feb. 27th, 2014 08:37 pm (UTC)
Thank you!! :-D

Damned shame there was never a season two. I want to know what happened next. Anna's exile could have made for a good story; and how did Charles manage without her there to watch his back? Were the new rebels good guys or bad guys? So much potential. Do I glare at the BBC or ITV? Have to glare at you for killing off Julian Glover though.

It was never meant to have a S2. That was just some sort of rumour - or maybe someone suggested it when it did quite well? I don't know, but I'm pretty sure it was never on the cards. But yes - still so much there! It could have been a fab Yuletide fic if someone had actually written it.

I nearly wimped out on killing Julian Glover. You don't need to glare at me - I already feel bad about it, but it had to happen.

And :lol: You don't want that novelisation! I picked it up for 1p on Amazon and, well, you know the stuff, two episodes novelised at random by the most unlikely writer with a rubbish still on the cover and very disappointing all round. Not even any photos in the middle. A prequel would have been interesting, but the novelisation... meh.
dimity_blue
Feb. 27th, 2014 08:57 pm (UTC)
I love how complete all this feels. Like it's a real series, one of your obscure ones. Any minute now, you'll be doing a massive picspam about it all, Amazon will have the DVDs listed at an extortionate price, and I'll stick it on my wishlist just in case I can ever afford it. I have to keep on reminding myself that you've made the entire thing up.

Of course, you could always write the whole thing as an original novel, just to please us lot who are wondering how all those snippets of scenes turned out. Maybe, at some point, it'd be turned into a 13 episode series. :oD
lost_spook
Feb. 28th, 2014 05:20 pm (UTC)
have to keep on reminding myself that you've made the entire thing up.

To be honest... so do I! :-D And thanks!

And I doubt I could ever write it up - I'd have to actually research all the political/economic/energy crisis stuff, oh dear... :loL:
clocketpatch
Mar. 1st, 2014 03:51 am (UTC)
Yay! I've only read up to episode 3 (it's so in-depth that reading too much of it at once and keeping track of the characters makes my brain go squiggly. I'll have to stagger and read the summaries like actual episodes apparently) but it's great so far. Like everyone else, I've got to keep on reminding myself that this isn't a real series (if it were, I'd be petitioning for a region 1 release)

lost_spook
Mar. 1st, 2014 01:02 pm (UTC)
it's so in-depth that reading too much of it at once and keeping track of the characters makes my brain go squiggly.

Whoops, sorry. I was worried about that when I was writing it, and wasn't sure which side it had come down on, really. If I'd known it was going to end up quite as it has, I'd have definitely waited and made it all one post, which might at least have been slightly easier.

And thank you! :-) ♥
flowsoffire
Sep. 16th, 2014 07:56 pm (UTC)
This is pretty fascinating, I love all the thought you put into it! :D

Arran: "You give somebody back their house, then, instead of being grateful and trying to get on and live in it, they tear it down and throw the bricks at you!"
Love this line. XD So true.
lost_spook
Sep. 17th, 2014 04:59 pm (UTC)
Thanks! And thanks for going back and reading - I know this one isn't really as fun for everyone as the ones with contemporary actors. And, yes, I might have got... a little carried away with it!

*beams*
flowsoffire
Sep. 17th, 2014 05:54 pm (UTC)
It was still very interesting for the story! (Besides, Elizabeth Sladen!)

:)
lost_spook
Sep. 18th, 2014 12:57 pm (UTC)
Cool! It's always fun to do, though it has to come with a big warning for the most dangerously brain-eating meme ever to bit LJ. The first time it came round was 2010, and in the unlikely event that you're ever bored on the net, instead of behind, isurrendered is full of the results, with so much amazing. And one or two shows that now have oddly similar real ones in existence, too. :-)

But, yes, there was Elisabeth Sladen. 1 out of, um, 20's not bad! :loL:
flowsoffire
Sep. 18th, 2014 02:43 pm (UTC)
That sounds like a super interesting meme! :D But yeah, brain-eating, lol. I believe you on that ;)
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